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2025/03/10 10:32
The value of collectors' items can vary significantly and is often subjective, particularly regarding erroneous products. While some may consider them worthless, others might view them as rare collectibles. To gauge interest and potential value, you could auction your item on eBay to see how collectors respond. Additionally, you may seek opinio ...
2025/03/09 22:43
Hi. I have a copy of this álbum with this error. Do you know how much it costs now this rare copy? Cheers
2025/01/30 03:47
Thank you for your message and for sharing the info on your copy. I'll update the list in the future, incorporating yours and some others. Even after 46 years since its release—and despite the hundreds of other titles—it's still THE bootleg for me!
2025/01/29 23:59
This was my first Springsteen boot to get. My is stamped 2895 with yellow labels. I did get the nugs relase and I've notice a few differences too but it's good have both.
2025/01/28 02:47
I'm not sure, as I haven't been collecting bootleg CDs for quite some time. You might want to check eBay, online shops, or collectors' social networking sites like Facebook to find a copy. Out of curiosity, I did a quick search and found two listings on the online shopping site 'cdandlp' (https://www.cdandlp.jp/); however, I fou ...
2025/01/28 00:24
Hello. Combien ce coffret coûte t'il maintenant ? Est il difficile à trouver
2024/07/29 22:21
Thanks for your info. Do you know if the CX version of BORN TO RUN has ever been pressed and released in Holland?
2024/07/27 00:20
I have a Romeo Void: Benefactor from 1981 made in Holland that is CX
2024/07/18 23:08
I just bought a copy of This Guns for Hire. Had never heard of it before, never seen a bootleg of anything before. No pictures.
2024/04/03 00:42
Thank you for the information on your copy #650, which will be included in the next update. I'd like to know whether the limited number is stamped directly on the slick insert or a small seal pasted on it. I assume the slick insert is black/white rather than black/cream yellow or black/pale blue. Is that correct?
2024/04/02 21:53
Thanks for all the info, I’ve got this album stamped 650 with yellow center labels
2024/03/14 10:19
Many thanks for your words, and I'm glad my blog is informative and useful for you. Your WLP copy of Spirit 7" is of a Santa Maria pressing (based on your report on Plant ID: SS). I guess it's made of vinyl but not styrene. Is it correct? Yours is -1F/-1G pressed at the Santa Maria Plant, and mine is -1C/-1E at the Terre Haute, so the ...
2024/03/13 01:30
Thank you so much for sharing such an incredible amount of detailed information that is actually consumable. There are many nuances to understand - you have an extraordinary gift and I appreciate your generosity. Regarding the WLP of Spirit In The Night, here is the info on one of the variants. Plant ID: SS Matrix / Runout (Label Side A): J ZSP158 ...
2024/01/07 07:46
Whenever I looked at the red Columbia labels on the "early Pitman" and "Lakewood/Pete" pressings of DARKNESS LP, I wondered why their label design significantly differed from the company's regular labels, such as those of Santa Maria and Terre Haute. Of course, the strike at the Pitman must have been the major cause. Does th ...
2024/01/06 18:52
The "late" pressing from Pitman is exactly what their label type layout would have looked like (artist name in big type, title divided into two lines as 'DARKNESS ON' and 'THE EDGE OF TOWN') at the onset had not the strike put them out of operation when this album was prepped for release. The early Pitman copy, however, l ...
2023/12/24 05:09
I encountered this miss-pressing that was sold by a U.K. seller online. Although this is just an example among many others, I can't help but feel how the internet has opened up the rather closed collectors' market to a wider audience since its application to online auctions (I started collecting long before the internet was public knowledge ...
2023/12/24 00:12
Thank you so much for the deep knowledge and information about the record industry in the U.S. you recently provided in a series of comments to my blog posts, especially on label printing and vinyl pressing, which are so overwhelming that I cannot reply to each comment immediately! On the last part of your comment: I know there were NAMI pressing ...
2023/12/23 01:39
Let me try again. When I initially made the comment, there was a snafu, I thought it went through and that was the end. Here we go: North American Music Industries acquired the Scranton plant in November 1973, and ran it until spring 1979 when it finally closed. From 1946 until June 30, 1973, it was the East Coast pressing plant of Capitol Reco ...
2023/12/22 02:48
(CONT'd) . . . 1958 album "Merry Christmas," with the red/orange "ring around Columbia" design - and "NONBREAKABLE" below the cat. #, for the first time on any "back catalogue" pressings of that album since late 1966.
2023/12/17 12:54
The label at left - shorn of the "walking eye" logo - dates to 1992 or a few years thereafter, in a period Columbia - by then owned by Sony - was trying to transition away from that iconic design. The 0.96875" pressing ring indicates a pressing origin from MCA's Gloversville, NY plant, to which Sony shifted pressing for their pr ...
2023/12/17 12:48
From my eye, as an expert in type layout, the Santa Maria (with Varityper and Varityper Headliner fonts) seemed rather clunky and inelegant. The Pitman (whose type was also used on Terre Haute pressings) had more command and control over how to do it right. The typefaces used, from smallest to largest, on the Santa Maria pressings were: - 7 point ...
2023/12/17 12:41
Pitman, for a few years after 1975, did press the occasional WLP in vinyl, which would explain why their particular fonts (all from Mergenthaler Linotype's VIP phototypesetting library, and first used in Pitman's print shop in June 1974 while the old-style hot-metal Linotype and Intertype typefaces in evidence on the labels of Bruce's f ...
2023/12/17 12:31
As Mr. Springsteen was not exactly a big seller when "Born To Run" was first recorded and released, Columbia had a policy with low-selling artists that only one set of lacquers be shipped to each of their pressing plants, hence the 1A set of dash numbers to Pitman, 1B to Terre Haute, and 1C to Santa Maria. In contrast, by the time of &qu ...
2023/12/17 12:26
Such an error would not have been on U.S. pressings, as ABBA in the States (and Canada) were signed to Atlantic Records. More likely pressing errors would have been if one side of that album - ish'd in the States as "(Benny, Bjorn, Anna and Frida)" - had, say, one side of The Rolling Stones' "It's Only Rock 'N' R ...
2023/12/17 12:16
It is not known if this "vendor" was used for this album, but over the years Columbia would use a New York printing house, Haber Typographers, for their typesetting on record album covers (including and especially the back) and the occasional 45 picture sleeve. One of that printing firm's most famous fonts used on Columbia product (n ...
2023/12/17 12:10
This appears to have been Columbia's way of distinguishing label paper between "heat seal" for styrene and "compression" for vinyl. C1S was used for the former because it was on the uncoated side that the adhesive (known in the paper industry as "gummed") was added to the back that would form as a glue when presse ...
2023/12/17 08:42
Many thanks for your information, which is always detailed and top-notch!
2023/12/17 06:57
Thank you so much for the further interesting information. I have an elementary question regarding paper coating, C1S (Coated One Side) and C2S (Coated Two Sides), in record manufacturing. What is the advantage of using C2S (i.e., Santa Maria pressings) for record labels? Record labels only need to be printed on one side. Just curious.
2023/12/16 19:03
Actually, having gotten a label sheet blank printed by Keystone Printed Specialties for CBS in the early '80's (pre-'82 before the unsightly box meant to put on the UPC was inserted, and on Philadelphia International), the paper stock used was 70 lb. C1S. It measured .0039 by my caliper (which was more or less the figure for such weigh ...
2023/12/16 18:59
I wish to amend what I'd said about the styrene labels (though not seen here). Going by caliper measurements of samples I have, most such labels were printed on 70 lb. C1S stock; very few were 60 lb., and those that were, were mainly for promos if at all. And on vinyl, depending on when pressed and other factors (i.e. a deep groove or indente ...
2023/10/10 10:13
Mine also has the hand-written matrix numbers A to F on Sides One to Six (exactly, each letter is flanked by two hyphens: for example, -A-, on Side One). Each white label is marked just A, B, or C combined with 1 or 2 as a side indication (e.g., Disc 1 carries labels printing A1 or A2).
2023/10/09 20:51
On my copy of Movi’n up to Stockholm there is hand-etched on the dead wax area,letters A B,C D,E F for every side of each record.
2023/06/17 19:40
Nope, totally get it. Thanks for the reply.
2023/06/17 03:55
As far as I know, there are no significant values or meanings for Springsteen's Santa Maria pressings to most music fans and vinyl collectors. However, hard collectors like me are interested in variations of a particular title (LP, single, CD, and so on) and try to collect them all. An example of hard collectors' concern in variations is wh ...
2023/06/17 02:50
Thank you for an interesting comment. Based on the track list and matrix numbers, "Movin' Up To Stockholm" and more famous/popular "Follow That Dream" are different pressings of the same concert, using the same audience-sourced master tapes (according to C. Hunt's bootleg section on the Blinded By The Light book). I ofte ...
2023/06/16 06:03
Hi, new to this. What's the significance of a "Santa Maria Pressing"? I see it referenced elsewhere. but so what?
2023/06/15 20:55
I’ll have Movi’n up to Stockholm. It’s very great sound and if you listening with earphones you can hear some swedish chat from the audience.
2023/04/26 22:06
Congratulations, you own a nice DARKNESS collectible pressed at Keel Mfg. Corp. in Hauppauge, NY., as identified by a Union Jack deadwax marking. Could you tell me what matrix numbers are inscribed on the deadwax of your copy? So far, I confirmed 1AB on Side One and 2K, 2W, or 2X on Side Two (check at https://manattop.blogspot.com/2022/08/darkness- ...
2023/04/26 15:07
I have three of these vinyls and one of them has a Union Jack on the runout and just has tracks listed on one side of album the other side just has the label but no print
2023/02/23 02:32
Ah, that's why only the Pinckneyville copies carry labels with unique appearances compared with all the other pressings. Not difficult to guess so, but that's just speculation without the info from a well-knowledged like you. Always greatly appreciated!
2023/02/23 01:56
2.75" = 69.85 mm 2.703125" = 68.659375 mm Difference = 1.190625 mm (In Japan, inches are not the standard unit of measurement) I measured the diameter of the stamper ring for each vinyl disc (Pitman and Peter Pan). Yes, exactly as you said, there was an approximately 1 mm difference in length between the two pressings. Thank you so muc ...
2023/02/22 15:12
Pinckneyville did its own label typesetting in-house as you can see, only Gloversville used label copy film from Santa Maria.
2023/02/22 15:11
Peter Pan pressing rings would have been 2.75", which would have been a bit more than Pitman's, Terre Haute's or Santa Maria's 2.703125".
2023/01/21 00:46
Thank you for uploading photo images of your one-of-a-kind error printing on your blog. No doubt, whatever the B-side label prints, the vinyl disc is of the NEBRASKA album. It's a typical reissue of Holland pressing, including the inner sleeve featuring German/French lyrics and a NICE PRICE advertising flyer, except for the barcode sticker on t ...
2023/01/20 19:05
Hi, I posted some photos on my blog, take a look. http://www.elbebecius.info/2023/01/weird-nebraska.html
2023/01/19 21:40
That's interesting, and of course, I have never seen it before. I think error products with a label from a different release are rarer than those with, for example, a blank label (https://manattop.blogspot.com/2019/05/thoughts-on-my-fathers-house-on_22.html). DYLAN AND THE DEAD was released in 1989 by CBS/Columbia Records, so your NEBRASKA copy ...
2023/01/19 20:07
Hello, I've just discovered your amazing blog. I have a (rather funny) "misprint" copy of Nebraska, where the disc's side B is labeled as... wait for it... "Dylan and the dead"!! Have you ever heard about it?
2023/01/19 19:48
No no of course not! On "it", the sleeve!
2023/01/18 21:43
Do you mean that you have a regular Dutch copy not only listing the misprint on the inner sleeve but also containing Held Up ... on Disc 2?
2023/01/18 15:44
I have a pressing from Holland and it has Held Up on it
2023/01/02 06:41
Thank you always for your high knowledge and information. The typesetting for the previous DARKNESS albums (released June 2, 1978) also significantly differed between Santa Maria and Pitman pressings (https://manattop.blogspot.com/2022/04/darkness-on-edge-of-town-us-lp.html). However, the Terre Haute labels were not the same as Pitman's but ver ...
2023/01/02 02:43
From late summer/early fall of 1977 onwards, the Santa Maria, CA plant had the same package of Linotype VIP phototypesetting fonts as Pitman and Terre Haute. How they typeset, as no doubt you've seen, differs significantly from Pitman especially (insofar as Columbia LP product is concerned). Very likely Terre Haute in this case used Pitman la ...
2022/12/25 10:52
I love accuracy, so I greatly appreciate your indication! It's interesting to know that Hebrew is a right-to-left script (I have never learned the Hebrew language before). That is because of the coincidence with the Japanese language style before the defeat of World War II. Since 1945 (or 1946), officially, we Japanese have described our langua ...
2022/12/25 08:29
Of minor interest: The Hebrew handwriting on your copy (read from right to left) is all exactly transliterated as in the note, except for “sound man” which is actually “engineer of” “sound”, with engineer being the actual Hebrew word. It would not be incorrect however to translate it as ‘sound man’. Many foreign terms and phrases that were never ...
2022/09/20 14:19
I don't think you can post photos in the comment section, but you can PM me as attachments at: manattop@gmail.com
2022/09/19 20:56
don't know how to post pics to this thread, but if you send me an email address I'll send you some pictures just so you have them!
2022/09/16 23:24
Yep, your copy must be a Holbrook pressing, as you also see the plant-specific hand-etching code "GOL" on the deadwax. For more info, see a relevant post here: https://manattop.blogspot.com/2021/05/darkness-on-edge-of-town-us-lp.html
2022/09/16 13:49
the runout grooves have PAL 35318 IAC PV and PBL 35318 2J PV, so from above looks like Holbrook NY?
2022/09/14 22:55
That's a rare finding! I have several error-bearing pressings but no copies like yours (w/ a label of another artist). Maybe the pressing plant mixed up the labels as Mathis's album was released from Columbia Records earlier (March) in 1978 than DARKNESS (June). Can you specify where the error disc was pressed from the label text/design or ...
2022/09/14 14:53
I just purchased a used copy of Darkness at the Edge of Town and found that it has the label for Johnny Mathis You Light Up My Life on side one. the record itself is correct, but for some reason the wrong label is on side one. Ever run across something like that? (Columbia PBL 35318 is written on the runout with PBL crossed out on the Mathis side ...
2022/08/28 15:28
Thanks for the quick response and feedback. I was able to narrow it down from your comments and have only 2 left to research or if I go by the number sequences it's a 50/50 chance I'll guess right. Thanks again!
2022/08/28 02:38
Hello Clevolo, Thank you for your contact. Yes, the Play:Back's disc/booklet combination issue has annoyed and confused vinyl collectors for years. As I wrote in the blog, two factors make it further complex: a few booklet varieties for the same discs in some releases; and artificially made-up disc/booklet combinations during circulation at use ...
2022/08/27 19:16
Hello manathtetop! Thank you so much for your detailed info. I just ran across your blog as I was trying to figure out which Play:Back booklet went with the AS66 record. With the photo you posted I was able to match it up. I only have (7) of the Play:Back records (65, 66, 69, 70, 75, 78 + 81). I see from your photo's you have similar issues. Wo ...
2022/08/13 01:39
Hi, thank you for your comment. As for the matrix inscription "PN," I have come to the same conclusion as you can see in the following posts: https://manattop.blogspot.com/2021/05/darkness-on-edge-of-town-us-lp.html https://manattop.blogspot.com/2022/04/darkness-on-edge-of-town-us-lp.html Speaking of non-Columbia plants involved early in ...
2022/08/12 17:57
Pn in your runouts may mean the record was mastered at Columbia Records pressing plant, Pitman, and pressed at North American Music Industries (see https://www.discogs.com/label/447694)
2022/07/20 22:26
I bet it must have been. Many thanks for sharing very interesting stories with us vinyl collectors! Do you think there were more unusual pressing plants involved in the early Darkness pressing? So far, the NAMI plant in Scranton, PA, two MCA-Records plants in Gloversville in NY and Pinckneyville in IL, the Keel in Hauppauge, NY, the Goldisc in Holb ...
2022/07/20 22:04
I am sorry to hear of your husband's illness, and I send prayers for his recovery and your continued strength. If you kindly share pictures of the "Pete" pressings, please send them from your mail account as attachments in private messages to me (manattop@gmail.com). May I ask you where I can find the gold record for sale?
2022/07/20 16:41
CBS was going crazy when the big Pitman, NJ plant went on strike. It was a huge season for them, Peter Pan Records was also given Gloria Gaynor’s “I Will Survive” to press at the same time!
2022/07/20 16:14
Thanks for your note. I’ll have to dig out the vinyl copy of Darkness to check the symbols, will let you know. The gold plating process in the stamper makes it tough to read. Unfortunately, he has been ill for a number of years and we listed the gold record for sale last night! Is there a way for me to attach a photo?
2022/07/20 13:57
Hello Susan, Thank you so much for responding to my blog article on the topic! Hitherto I had known about neither Peter Pan Records nor its involvement in pressing the DARKNESS album back in 1978. Based on the information you kindly provided, the Pete plant in Lakewood Township is counted as the sixth among the unusual pressing plants that helped C ...
2022/07/20 05:42
The paper labels were in stacks. Somebody had to separate the sides and load them into the pressing machines, to plop on the top & bottom of the blob of melted vinyl (the size of a quarter-pounder). It's very easy to make this error. Then the stampers come down and press the record and it gets trimmed and slid onto a spindle.
2022/07/20 05:08
My husband has the framed gold records "stampers" for Darkness on the Edge of Town. When Columbia Records' plant in Pitman NJ was on strike in 1978, they subcontracted the bulk of pressing to Peter Pan Records of Newark pressing plant on Towbin Ave in Lakewood, NJ. The plant ran 3 shifts of Darkness on the Edge of Town. My husband w ...
2022/06/06 03:39
Thank you for the info on your copy. I guess your set carries the Slipped Disc label on each side of three vinyl discs and comes in a black box with a white slick insert on which the limited number (4040) is stamped. Are these right?
2022/06/05 15:37
My # is 4040. Comments??
2022/05/23 03:16
No, I haven't. That's an interesting finding. There must have been such error discs in circulation for each album. For example, I own an early U.S. copy of DARKNESS (Scranton pressing) carrying the SIDE2 label on both sides. I also have a mislabeled Mexican TUNNEL LP with the SIDE 1 label on SIDE2 and vice versa, and so on. Although many co ...
2022/05/22 22:49
Have you ever seen a Born in the USA LP with the same label (side1) on both sides? Canadian Pressing 1984
2022/05/16 05:20
Thanks for clearing up the mystery of the hidden labels for me, your link sorted out the details. Superb blog you have going here, keep up the good work!
2022/05/14 10:45
Thank you for your message. Yes, I have. In some countries, including Japan, some U.S. exports have been modified on labels, rear sleeves, and spine so that the company name (Columbia) and its trademark are masked or hidden. This is because of copyright issues (please read the following blog post: https://manattop.blogspot.com/2016/01/born-to-run- ...
2022/05/14 03:56
I have a copy I think came from Santa Maria, deadwax PAL-35318-1C, PAL-35318-2C, TML-M, S1, side 2 also has a scribble scratch E4 mark. This copy however has a red label with black writing and the entire outer label where Columbia is usually seen has been covered with black ink. The back cover also has the manufacturing information covered in black ...
2022/04/29 06:49
Thank you!
2022/04/29 03:52
This was very helpful!
2022/03/31 09:26
Hello Mike, Thank you for your message. I'd appreciate it if you let me know your copy number of this great bootleg any time!
2022/03/31 00:36
I have that set. Bought when new. white label and slipped disc vinyl. Still have it but it's in storage so I don't know the serial number.
2022/02/28 03:04
In that scene, Bruce seems to talk to a grumpy-looking security staff who looks similar but not identical to Mr. Jon Landau. And behind him, there is a silver-haired man who played the "hall manager" among Landau, David Geffin, and John Hall during the interruption of Detroit Medley just before Bruce made the emergency announcement (or is ...
2022/02/25 16:30
That is possible, but venue staff probably would have been backstage or side stage rather than in the crowd. I suspect it was something involving fans or security down front
2022/02/21 03:43
Thank you for your very interesting guessing. I think Bruce was confirming someone (a hall staff?) about how much time he had before the concert had to be ended since the overage charge must have been huge at the MSG. Probably a wrong idea, though.
2022/02/20 05:24
Oh, never mind. Seems like the Goldsmith moment was night 2. Although maybe she was also shooting night 1 which prompted the outburst on night 2...
2022/02/20 02:18
I believe this may have been the night where Bruce saw his ex-girlfriend, photographer Lynn Goldsmith in the front shooting pictures. There is a story somewhere that he asked her not to shoot his performance. He did pull her onstage apparently at some point. I know there are photos of that. But I am not sure exactly when he did it and not even sur ...
2022/02/02 23:38
Hi Yvonne, thank you for your message and for providing the matrix numbers of your copy. I guess your dad must be a big fan of Bruce since the LP was not commercially available but distributed for promotional purposes. As for the collecting value, please refer to Part 2/second paragraph (https://manattop.blogspot.com/2020/05/collecting-log-as-reque ...
2022/02/01 11:29
Beste Manatop Ik heb hier ook deze elpee, ooit van mijn vader gekregen. Dank je wel voor de duidelijke omschrijving. Bij mij staat het volgende vermeld: Side1 XSM - 168620 1BF2 0 en op side2 XSM - 168621 2D F8 0 Ik weet niet of je hier iets mee kan of het überhaupt iets van waarde heeft? De elpee heeft niet een geheel nieuwe uitstraling. Vriendel ...
2021/11/03 12:16
Oh, so the red one is fairly limited, which is unexpected and new to me.
2021/11/03 11:37
No, the box is gray, too. In 1991 I helped a friend to repair his computer. He collected LPs and CDs and sold them in a 2nd hand shop (his one). It is the same I see on your photos. Nice to see someone who has got this treasure, too...
2021/11/03 11:19
The serial number of your copy is much earlier than mine. Is your box wine-red-colored?
2021/11/03 10:20
Yeah, great album. I'v got it too, #0439
2021/10/30 13:11
Oh, you're the owner of the CX-encoded BTR copy shown on Discog? Congrats, yours is still shrink-wrapped with the red CX logo, so nicer than mine. I knew it was on Yahoo! Japan auction, but I did not understand what the CX meant and regarded it as just a reissue copy due to the catalog number (JC 33795). To register the promo multi-CD set to ...
2021/10/30 09:12
Hi, I recenrtly could yet a copy of the 4CDs set at Yahoo Auctions for 9.000 ¥, just one bid for this one. i tried to added to discogs, but the titles and performers are only in japanese… I’m the one who added the CX Born To Run to discogs, also bought at Yahoo auctions for 3.500 ¥ :-) Take care
2021/07/17 01:21
It might not be a hot item unless it is a special edition or custom promo, as Springsteen's name has often been misspelled. I'm not a CD collectible expert, though.
2021/07/15 19:10
I don't even remember the album name but I ran across a CD today with Bruce's name mispelled on the side or edge of the CD. Does that make it any more valuable?
2021/07/15 19:09
I ran across the CD today where Bruce's name is misspelled on the side cover of the jacket on the cd? Does that make it any more valuable? I didn't purchase it but could probably pick it up pretty easily and I don't remember which album it was
2021/05/22 01:51
I don’t see differences, though not by strict comparison. The first and second pressings use the same master lacquers based on the matrix inscriptions (i.e., The matrix numbers of the first pressing were scratched out on the second edition).
2021/05/21 01:21
Hi, What about the quality sound of the 2nd edition?
2021/04/26 23:43
That's interesting, but I have never seen it.
2021/04/26 22:10
Have you ever heard of a Born to Run LP with a Johnny Winter label on the record itself
2021/04/25 07:46
Thanks for your comment. I've just kept writing what I want to write. BTW, like Japan, Mexico is an interesting source for Springsteen collectibles, and I'm still missing some...
2021/04/24 23:39
amazing, regards from MEXICO.
2021/04/17 06:08
Hi Eddy, thank you for the comments and your e-mail with the extensive search results (for my response, check my PM sent to you). Although there is no definitive proof, I think that the circumstantial evidence strongly supports what you say and what I mentioned as one possibility in the blog (i.e., one issue has variation in an associated booklet) ...
2021/04/16 00:03
I have researched this subject a few years ago and came to the conclusion that some records were distributed with different issues of the booklet, and some issues of the booklets included different records. This is based on copies I have and copies I say on eBay and other places. The more data I collect, the more sure I become. I will drop you an e ...
2021/04/03 09:14
Agreed. My favorite is THE RIVER, but the greatest is always BORN TO RUN. I know this list needs to be updated. There is at least one more distinctive U.S. release to be added after RELEASE 7 (or RELEASE 8). Too bad, I cannot write about it because I know its existence but don't own the copy.
2021/04/02 23:02
GREAT LP I'M LISTENING TO BACKSTREETS LP RIGHT NOW BRUUUUUUUUCE!
2021/03/15 07:02
Hi Timothy, thanks a lot for your very informative reply. So, the Canadian 7" discs are probably rarer in quantity and better in quality than the U.S. counterparts, I guess. And for further communications, please send PM to me at manattop@gmail.com when you can.
2021/03/14 17:24
Hello manatthetop, interesting background with respects to the fragile styrene molding. The production plant was based in Don Mills, Toronto Ontario from 1971 to 1988 before it became Sony Canada Inc. The plant was capable to produce 100,000 of vinyl and distribute nation wide. My understanding from a former CBS representative that all vinyl produc ...
2021/03/14 00:20
Timothy, thank you so much for posting such nice comments! There is a question I have been curious about 7" discs from Columbia Records of Canada for a long time (as I don't own any). Compared to the U.S. 7" releases (mostly fragile styrene molding, as I reported here), I read somewhere (or heard) that the Canadian counterparts are vi ...
2021/03/13 14:09
I concur with you given the global situation, do you foresee yourself posting international Springsteen collection's with such detail. As a long time collector from Canada, resources from your blog are valuable to learn from. Best regards Timothy
2021/03/07 03:49
Thank you so much for your comments! I'm really glad to have the responses like yours, a major source of the continuing driving force for blogging, though not able to write posts frequently under the current severe situation.
2021/03/07 01:52
I like to share this moment to thank you both for providing the necessity for record collectors and collecting journalism alike. The depth of information is concise. I look forward to future postings. Thank you
2021/02/28 03:45
Glad to hear from the great former Webmaster. Thank you so much for your comments, and I always admire your long-time efforts in running the website all those years, which undoubtedly has made a great impact and contribution to the world of Springsteen collectors (I do know it's a tough work as I had run my own website long before launching the ...
2021/02/27 12:19
Hi there. This is Peter, former co-webmaster of the "Lost In The Flood" website. First of all, I would like to compliment you on your outstanding research work, which really is second to none. Although I have stopped collecting Bruce and sold my entire collection about 7 years ago (as well as quitting "LITF"), I still keep check ...
2021/02/14 02:56
Great info! Thank you so much!! Do you know if there are other Springsteen LPs pressed at the Keel plant? (I have never seen his any other LPs with the dead-wax Flag symbol except for DARKNESS)
2021/02/13 12:39
I was the machinist there at 15 Gilpin Ave, Hauppauge NY from 1977 until 1999. The company was: Keel Mfg UNTIL 1981/ HMG until 1994 / Allied Digital Technologies until 1999. Perhaps that British Flag in the dead wax space was due to the fact that the CEO of Keel Manufacturing at the time was Roger Gouldstone who was from England,
2020/11/18 09:28
The value of a bootleg is subjective. Please refer to auctions like eBay or databases such as Popsike.
2020/11/17 12:53
I own a BOOTLEG MINT Bruce Springsteen 1988 Double Live from Chapel Hill w/ Rolling Stone Magazine Album Cover...What is it worth ????
2020/11/09 12:23
Hi Dave, thank you for sharing your memories four decades ago! Such purchase histories of individuals are valuable to unravel the chronology of vinyl Bruceleg. On collecting, every purchase/gift has its own story. Sadly, however, I don't remember if I have ever been given any Bruceleg as a gift. Springsteen bootlegs must have been great Xmas ...
2020/11/08 22:01
Paid the Cost was likely released in 1978 or 1979. The copy, Jersey Devil Palladium 76 on Blockhead Records was definitely available in 1980, perhaps in 79. I received that as a Christmas present in 1980 (Winterland was my first, Christmas 1979).
2020/11/08 21:53
I believe Action in the Street was released around the same time as The River that Talks and All Those Years, c. early 1984. My local store was supposed to hold a copy of The River That Talks for me for a few days. When I went back with the money (I think it was $35 or 40) they had sold it. So I wound up buying Action in the Street (for $22.50).
2020/09/24 11:20
Hi, thank you for your comments. On your first question, according to someone very close to the bootlegger who made This Guns 5-LP box, the first pressing came out in late 1984 (check his/her comments to the post on 04/23/2016). The second pressing might have been released sometime in 1985, but I'm not sure. As for your second question, firs ...
2020/09/24 02:36
Great posts on This Gun! I have the second pressing. Sorry if I missed it, but do we know what years each version was released? I'm also curious to hear how you knew for sure that your first copy was the pirated version.
2020/09/17 10:01
Thank you for the info on Ken Perry’s cutting and its relation to the matrix marking on the 7-inch single. I wrote about another Perry’s cutting (promo-only compilation LP for THE RIVER ) and my interpretation of the matrix inscriptions (https://manattop.blogspot.com/2020/05/collecting-log-as-requested-around_30.html). As you are obviously knowle ...
2020/09/16 23:17
'F3' alongside the '1C' indicates the third lacquer set cut by Mr. Perry on the 'F' Neumann lathe at Capitol Mastering in Hollywood. He had done this with some other clients as well: 'F#' dash numbers accompanied other dash numbers on the multi-million-selling Fleetwood Mac album Rumours (Warner Bros. BSK 3010).
2020/07/15 10:21
As for DARKNESS, no. My collection of blank-label pressings includes Greetings (US, Side 2), The River (US, Side 3), Nebraska (US, Side 2), and Born In The USA (UK, Side 1). All US labels are red blank with a yellow "Columbia" rim print.
2020/07/15 02:59
I also have a copy of Darkness that is misprinted. It’s pressed correctly but there is no label on side 2- just a blank red label. Have you seen this before?
2020/06/07 04:29
Hi Eddy, as always, many thanks for your thorough info and also for sharing your insights. Much info here and there on the promo are groundless or not supported by objective evidence. So, I was just not able to find any other reliable info but that on the Blinded By The Light book. Now, however, the release year as 1982 is more realistic than as 19 ...
2020/06/06 23:33
Good point! "Bruce Springsteen Sampler" was not released in 1980. I had blindly trusted Lost In The Flood and never bothered to investigate. Backstreets magazine wrote "Canada recently issued...", but back then (pre-internet) "recently" could mean many months. I strongly believe that "Bruce Springsteen Sampler&qu ...
2020/06/04 22:00
A little more thought on the matrix inscriptions SXT. Though I can't be sure, to me, the first two letters SX and the last T appear to be hand-etched slightly differently (by two different persons or on two separate occasions). Just like typical Santa Maria-pressing signatures (1S and 2S), SX is scratched faintly on the dead wax whereas T is ha ...
2020/06/03 05:24
Eddy, you made a good point. I don’t have the right answer as to why the SXT code is inscribed on only one side of the vinyl disc and not on the other. Compared with other vinyl (and styrene) releases of Springsteen's albums (and singles therefrom), the matrix inscriptions on the RIVER-era discs are always not straightforward and not easy to de ...
2020/06/02 17:30
Interesting stuff, as always. Good logic regarding the SXT code. But if indeed this is a Santa Maria stamper that was sent to Terre Haute, wouldn't the code be present on both side? ...unless stampers always came in pairs (i.e., both sides would be replaced and discarded at the same time after a long run of pressings). I had a look at my two ...
2020/05/31 00:39
They should have fit properly, as the die-cut center holes since about 1972-73 stood at 0.289" diameter for LP labels for the Pitman, NJ plant. How they veered so far is another story in and of itself.
2020/05/26 10:18
You're right. There's a stamper ring (though much smaller than other pressings) and the edge of the disc is not flat. It must be a low concentration of black pigments.
2020/05/26 02:03
I don’t think so. Polyvinyl chloride (PVC) is naturally colorless and transparent. Black vinyl records are black just because black carbon is added to the PVC mix in the production process. So are colored vinyls, as dyes are used instead. Also, the CBS Special Products discs do not show features that are characteristic of polystyrene, such as the r ...
2020/05/25 19:26
Do you think the CBS Special Products issues is styrene-molded? Are translucent records (when held a against strong light source) ALWAYS made out of styrene?
2020/04/13 23:43
Speaking of vinyl discs with erroneous/defective labels, as found here , I have those with blank, misprinting, off-centered, side-reversed, and no hole labels; however, none of those with a same label on both sides. An interesting finding!
2020/04/13 01:30
Very interesting. I have a copy of Darkness... that is pressed correctly, but both sides have the side 2 center label. I've always been curious to learn more about this but have never seen mention of it anywhere.
2020/01/04 03:18
Yes, the mystery continues and that's why we can discuss with these things and I can continue this blog!
2020/01/03 15:59
Your research and opinions are very well-informed, so you may very well be correct that FOTF originated in the UK. I was not aware of the UK review of the LP, and that would seem to be a very good indicator that it was a UK production. Surprising, but it seems very likely based on this information. In fact, the heavy black vinyl copy with UK4 in th ...
2020/01/03 07:51
Hi Dave, thanks always for your info on Brucelegs, which I really appreciate! And now we know that the inner bag can't be a measure to distinguish these two releases.
2020/01/03 03:48
I have what you suggest is the 1987 reissue, missing Bruce Springsteen on the label and SG crossed out in the matrix with numbers scribbled instead. Look like 07 08, etc. However, both copies have the square bag inner sleeves.
2019/10/25 23:26
Hi Dave, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Although I'm not sure, the following facts and my observation made me believe that the first edition (Release A, heavy black vinyl) of Fire On The Fingertips came out from the U.K.: 1. Clinton Heylin writes in his book BOOTLEG that this bootleg LP originated from U.K. (Chapter 9 "Anarchy in the U ...
2019/10/24 13:54
I think the Release A in the Bootleg Bible listing may be speculation or may refer generally to the UK-4 pressings. My understanding is the UK-4 matrix is the original version with various vinyl colors (black, red, blue). The releases I've seen with vinyl containing the HR-133 matrix (release D) appear to be copies of the UK-4. I assumed these ...
2019/05/13 03:38
Hi Eddy, 1. On your test pressing: (1) According to the memo on one of the three white sleeves of your copy, the radio station received these pre-release pressings on November 30, 1979, a few weeks advance of its commercial release. As a collector, I'm always interested in this kind of facts and information. (2) In relation to the NO NUKES c ...
2019/05/13 01:07
Hi wbhist, thank you so much for your insight and info, which I never thought of as I am totally not familiar with these things. Very interesting!
2019/05/12 19:17
This was a very interesting four-part series. Some good analysis here. Good observation regarding the high cutting numbers. I have the same test pressing of the album as yours. Based on the writings, it came from the WAER-FM radio station. It has some interesting drawings. I always wondered about them. Here are the versions I have of the album: ht ...
2019/05/11 19:16
That misaligned label at right gives a glimpse as to how 45 label sheets were laid out. For 3.5" trim labels as on styrene 45's, the bleed was designated 3.75" and such was also how they were centered on a sheet. I don't know if Pantone Warm Red or Magenta was used in conjunction with Pantone 123 to get that "sunburst" ...
2019/04/03 11:22
Hi Dave, Could you let me know that you are talking about the "originals" of all the FOTF copies ever released or among the various copies pressed in the US?
2019/04/01 23:47
I believe the UK-4 deep red (with some white mixed in) and blue (possibly also black) vinyl versions are the originals. These LPs were pressed with wider grooves and less dead wax than the subsequent HR-133 pressings. The covers are also slightly different with the UK-4 pressings having font that extends to the very edge of the cover. The HR cove ...
2018/11/20 10:24
Halleluja!
2018/11/20 10:23
Looks like you have a great DOTEOT early Amrican pressing collection! How many copies do you own of this great album?
2018/11/19 18:50
Great info, thanks! As for the probable Pitman pressings: I didn't know the existence of the version with the PPP code on both sides. As for the Santa Maria pressings: With three (1A, 1B and 1C on SIDE 1) and two (2B and 2C on SIDE 2) suffix varieties, I have all the combinations in my collection except for 1C/2B. I don't think the SIDE 2 ...
2018/11/19 17:45
Provided that it really refers to Pitman, I vote your idea!
2018/11/19 12:22
I have a PPP variant, which has the following matrices: Side 1: PAL-35318-XXX (crossed out) 1AF TML-S PPP Side 2: PBL-35318-2AB PPP TML-M So PPP on both sides. My Santa Maria early pressing has the following matrices: Side 1: PAL-35318-1B TML-S Side 2: PBL-35318-2B TML-S So no 1A, 2A variant here unfortunately
2018/11/19 12:11
PPP; couldn't it be as simple as Pitman Pressing Plant??
2018/11/19 12:02
And after reading this, I think you might be on something here...great find and logical explanantion. I'm excited!!
2018/11/19 11:36
What can I say? Thanks a lot for putting this together. It's a nice read and provides good information.
2018/10/08 13:49
If you refer to the sample copy for the Brilliant Disguise one-side Japanese 7" vinyl (CBS/SONY 04SP 1075; https://manattop.blogspot.com/2015/07/collecting-log-live-1987585-legend.html), I am certain that it's genuine. Since Atlantic City/Mansion On The Hill (CBS/SONY 07SP 657 released in 1982) up to the Japanese last vinyl single One Step ...
2018/10/08 10:35
hi, i have a question about one sided promo. Few copies coy MIHONBAN 3 ideograms...is this rare version genuine or no? i seriousloy have doubts
2018/09/10 20:25
Great piece ! This information has been very useful.
2018/07/18 20:53
I also think that what I called version 1 came earlier because the text on version 2 (which seems to be more elaborate and precise) is found on later labels: Born In The USA or red label reissues of later albums. For reference, see high quality scans of my Israeli pressings: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/collection.php?cmd=list&category=alb ...
2018/07/16 12:29
Hi Eddy, your comments prompted me to examine my two Israeli copies. Truly, I found different descriptions on the labels as you pointed out. These copies exhibit the differences not only in the label descriptions, but also in printing quality of the gate-fold sleeves. This might reflect the difference in the timing of releasing two issues (althoug ...
2018/07/15 21:02
Today I discovered that there are two versions of the labels for the Israeli issue of The River differing in the text on the outer ring. Version 1: "ALL RIGHTS OF THE MANUFACTURER AND THE OWNER OF THE RECORD WORK RESERVED" "UNAUTHORIZED PUBLIC PERFORMANCE BROADCASTING AND COPYING OF THIS RECORD PROHIBITED" Version 2: "ALL ...
2018/07/03 04:50
Hi Scott, great info, thank you so much! (Note to blog readers: The Scranton pressing is mentioned in the post at: https://manattop.blogspot.com/2017/03/darkness-on-edge-of-town-us-lp.html)
2018/07/02 13:57
The Scranton factory anvil dates back to the 1940s when Capitol Records owned the pressing plant. The symbol is actually a stylized U.S. Capitol building, which is still used as the record company logo. The symbol was phased out in the early 60s, replaced with the factory workers (IAM) union mark.
2018/06/12 22:50
Hi William, many thanks for your comment. Surprised and never expected to have a response from someone working at the pressing plant! Do you have any info on this particular version of THE RIVER LP or can you confirm my speculation on it?
2018/06/12 22:44
Hi wbhist, sorry for my belated response and thank you so much for sharing your deep knowledge on manufacturing record discs, which only the professional would/should know about. BTW, do you know any example of styrene-made LP discs from 1970's to 1980's?
2018/06/12 14:02
Interesting post for sure. I worked at the Shelbyville Indiana EMW plant in the early to mid 80's during the summers while attending college. Many good pressings came out of that plant. I have that "Rock of the 80's". Wish I would have snagged the Springsteen and Miles Davis as well.
2018/05/27 11:36
This was generally the case of most pressing plants that handled styrene, that center labels would not have a die-cut hole as here, given that it would ultimately be "dinked" with the large 1.5" diameter hole. I have a few other pressings like this - including one from Monarch which likewise had no holes drilled into the labels. St ...
2018/04/20 21:18
Thanks for your info. Wanna add the variant copy (repressed by V. V.) to my collection only if the price ($99.95) falls to much lower. It's way expensive...
2018/04/20 14:06
Different edition with yellow cover is on eBay now
2018/03/09 08:25
Just see your new post! Thanks a lot..I will dig into it soon....cheers
2018/02/20 13:12
Hi Eddy, many THANKS for the supportive information. It's always quite difficult to gather accurate information on extreme rarities like this. So, what you have provided is always invaluable. As for the inner sleeve, the interpretation based on your search results is reasonable. I think what we need is more examples.
2018/02/20 09:33
My copy, which is genuine, has the same run-out etchings (stamped: "DJ428A Q" / hand-etched: "C1"). The online information that "DJ428A Q" is hand-etched is incorrect. My copy comes in a clear plastic inner sleeve. I guess it was added by the Israeli dealer I bought it from, and not from CBS. It'd be interesting t ...
2018/02/10 03:54
Hi Marcel, I have a question on your DARKNESS LP collection. Could you drop me a PM at manattop@gmail.com ? Thanks.
2018/01/29 15:54
Hello wolf 55, thank you for your comment. I'm really glad that finally I received a response from a Japanese for the first time ever since I started writing this blog! So, perhaps you are one of those who were there that night or the other night(s) in 1997.
2018/01/29 14:25
I appreciate your contribution. The performance of Tom Joad Japan tour is a very memorable memory for us Japanese people. I am always surprised at your collection. I do not know where you got it from, but I am particularly surprised by the presence of open reels.
2018/01/28 22:45
Thanks hobbes, I didn't know that there were similar "File Under ..." bootlegs out there for other artists. When it comes to bootlegs other than Brucelegs, I'm a novice collector. Then, I have to reconsider my idea. Any thought on which part, East or West Coast, it came from?
2018/01/28 18:44
There is a series of "File Under . . ." EPs released for various artists. The Pretenders, Stones, Zeppelin, Scorpions, Beatles, Yes, Van Halen, etc etc. Could be the work of LC, but I kind of doubt it.
2018/01/28 04:06
Thanks Eddy for your responses. Yes, as you pointed out, it is probable that "the other booklet" is not official but a home-made product. Although I don't have definitive evidence to support my idea, I think a clue to this is the date I obtained this promo set (December 1st, 1995), which is shortly after the official release date (Nov ...
2018/01/27 18:39
I would be wary about that lyrics promo booklet. It reminds me of some similar ones I did back in early 2000's (for several albums). I printed the pages (in black and white) and binded them at a bookshop at my university, using the same black plastic ring binder and with clear protective plastic pages. It would be a good sign if we can know mor ...
2018/01/10 00:59
I also found mention on Lost In The Flood (a Springsteen fan site) that mentions this mispressing as very rare. I really wonder how many exist...and of course, what an estimated selling price might be...not that I would ever let it go, of course ;-). Thank you for your response!
2018/01/09 22:25
Thanks for your post on your great finding. I don't own the mispressing and so can't tell much about it. All I can guess is that the NAMI pressing plant in Scranton received two metal master or mother discs (or stampers) for pressing SIDE 2 from Columbia Records, with the matrix number suffixes -2S and -2T (and at least one with the suffi ...
2018/01/09 16:18
Hi, You seem to be the most knowledgeable about Darkness On the Edge Of Town variant pressings, so here goes. I bought a copy on eBay, expecting a vanilla LP, only to find it's a mispressing with Side 2 playing on both sides. The center labels show Sides 1 & 2 tracks, as expected. The only other reference I could find online of this was ...
2018/01/04 10:41
Definitely, your copy is a product of printing error which draws attention of certain collectors as a kind of collectables. I own several such LP copies, one of which is shown here: https://manattop.blogspot.jp/2016/12/collecting-log-best-acquisition-in-2016.html
2018/01/04 09:47
Hello I was wondering if I could ask you a question about a born to run lp pc 33795 I bought on eBay several years ago its a stock lp with a blank side a and a normal printed side B I tried to find out about it with no luck. Your knowledge of springsteen is far beyond mine.and was wondering if you would know anything about it please.. William
2018/01/01 13:57
For artists like Springsteen, yes, there are so many variations for a single album. Still, sixty copies owned by a single collector is simply amazing (and in my case, that is true for THE RIVER collection). Thanks a lot for your comment on the WMMR copy. Yes, I've received so far overall non-supportive responses to my interpretation on the ha ...
2018/01/01 11:35
There are many variants from Canada, Holland, Japan, UK... and even countries like Greece, Yugoslavia... so I can understand how one can collect 60 different versions when focusing on one album. As for the signature on this WMMR copy, I'm afraid I can't help. The letters seem to be "aes". One has to find a document with Ed Sciaky ...
2018/01/01 09:49
Hi, Only on vinyl! Really looking forward to your summarization, I'm sure that will help a lot.
2017/12/31 15:33
Happy new year! It's already 2018 here. You own 60 copies of DARKNESS!! Does this number include all formats (vinyl/CD/cassette) or vinyl only? I'm going to summarize various aspects of the first U.S. pressings of the DARKNESS LP. Hope that would help your collecting.
2017/12/31 13:37
Interesting find! I can’t give you confirmation unfortunately, however I consider this to be an option for sure. I’m a DOTEOT fanatic myself if I may say (currently have around 60 different versions), and next year US pressings will be my main target. Do you perhaps have a list of all different US pressings? Happy New Year!!
2017/12/30 01:03
Blockhead Records also seems to be East Coast-based although what is printed on the labels is usually not believable ("New Port, PA"). Yes, Blockhead Records also re-released The Great White Boss 3LP box with the same matrix numbers, but the hand-etchings on the dead wax differ from those of the original Hangman edition, indicating that t ...
2017/12/29 23:43
Hangman may well have been east coast based, but I really do not know. I thought it may have been a VV offshoot. But no info seems to be public on these Hangman releases. Production not consistent with a Lou C reboot after his bust.
2017/12/29 23:07
Finally, I have The Fever b/w Higher and Higher with Hangman labels pressed on red vinyl and light blue marbled vinyl. Fire b/w Paradise with Hangman labels is on blue marbled vinyl, and Santa Claus with Hangman labels is on white and pink marbled vinyl. Similar marbled vinyl was also used for some copies of Philadelphia Special (8/18/78, Spectru ...
2017/12/29 23:01
Paid the Cost was also repressed on Blockhead Records as The Jersey Devil Palladium 76 (black and grey marbled vinyl are in my collection). Same matrix, same plates. Interestingly, the Great White Boss box was also repressed on Blockhead Records on black vinyl and so was Piece de Resistance (with a cheap xeroxed insert and a beige colored box).
2017/12/29 22:57
Thanks a lot Hobbes, as I own only a few 7" bootlegs such as The River That talk and Outside 7-11 Store, your info is complete new to me (I thought the 7" boots you mentioned are all white-labeled). BTW, I guess Hangman is an East Coast-based bootleg label (no evidence, though). Any info/thought on that?
2017/12/29 22:44
Other singles from the era have the famous Hangman labels, Santa Claus b/w Night Train and Heartbreak Hotel, and Fire b/w Paradise by the C. The latter I have as a Hangman label with a large center hole. All the other Hangman labels have small spindle holes. But I agree that the only Hangman label LPs I've seen are Paid the Cost and the Great ...
2017/12/28 14:24
Hi Marcel, Thanks a lot, at the very end of this year, I'm very happy to have received a message like yours! Surely you encourage me to continue this blog. As with all the posts, any comments and responses are welcome.
2017/12/28 11:28
I just want to say thank you for all your great posts! I never react to them, but I do read them all. It's a great source of information. Looking forward to your contributions next year. Happy New Year!
2017/12/25 16:19
I had not been aware of this KEY information from Discog databases! Thanks once again for further exploration of the topic.
2017/12/25 12:38
Sure. I agree. And let me add this link for the record: https://www.discogs.com/label/59590-CBS-Special-Products The important part of the text is "Was also a budget reissue and compilation label of its own".
2017/12/25 11:27
Hi Eddy, many thanks for your helpful information on the topic here, which is consistent with the idea that this unusual U.S. version of THE RIVER LP is one of the repressed copies. Still many aspects on this release remains unknown, though.
2017/12/25 01:42
If you search for "CBS Special Products" on eBay, you will find many more examples. If the information on those listings is correct, then the label was used as early as 1982 and as late as 1986. See examples: http://www.ebay.com/itm/173014170225 * http://www.ebay.com/itm/152811229694 * See https://www.discogs.com/release/3046368 On an un ...
2017/10/27 22:11
Hi Eddy, thanks always for the info. Yes, and in addition, the rear sleeve of the Brazilian edition (CBS 138.641) lists the Portuguese translation to seven out of ten track titles, which makes it unique and collectable among various LP releases of this album.
2017/10/27 17:23
I confirm that the Brazil pressing (or at least 'a' Brazil pressing) carries the same track-length misprints on the label.
2017/10/20 02:13
Yes, as already pointed out by the first comment made by an anonymous reader.
2017/10/19 18:54
"195" is obviously $1.95. Notice that "95" is written as a superscript. And I highly doubt that Columbia would shrinkwrap promotional 12" singles.
2017/10/05 23:54
I was talking about the outer sleeve (jacket). As far as I know, no copies have been circulated in the thick, box-like sleeve. Just wanted to know about your copy.
2017/10/05 23:08
If you are talking about the jacket, it comes in one with a thin spine. All my other six US pressings (not this version) come in a jacket with a thick thin spine. If you are talking about the inner sleeves, they are cardboard (not paper), just like all the other US pressings I have. Here are all my US pressings, with complete info: http://www.spr ...
2017/10/02 11:55
Eddy, one question on your copy. Which sleeve, thick or thin, does your copy come in?
2017/10/02 11:16
Hi Eddy, many thanks for your comment. I just remembered people saying that the first impression is always right.
2017/10/01 18:38
I can confirm that the monogram is "SL". Not "LS" and definitely not "ES". I can see it very clearly on all four sides on my copy. Logically, "SL" are the initials of the mastering/cutting engineer at Electrosound Group Midwest, but that remains to be confirmed. Here are high quality scans of my copy: http:/ ...
2017/04/05 16:21
And for comparison of pricing, in the US newly released commercial LPs were generally priced at $5.98 or $6.98 depending on the artist. Frampton Comes Alive was a specially priced double LP that listed at $7.98, while I believe most double LPs listed at $9.98.
2017/04/04 03:33
119 cut sticker stamped, thin box, sealed 398 oval sticker stamped, thin box yellow label 255 square sticker stamped, thin box, yellow label 3957 light stamp, thin box, Slipped DIsc 2658 light stamp, thick box, slipped disc 2508 light stamp, thick box, slipped disc 01436 light stamp, thin box, slipped disc all black boxes
2017/04/04 02:15
I was going to say the one pic with the behind the stage seats visible looked a little like Tacoma, so reading the potential west coast origin might make sense. I don't have a copy with pictures, although my Last Night in the East has 3 pics I think. . .
2017/04/04 02:12
At my local store in northern NJ, I think This Gun sold for $50 or $60. They carried the European and Japanese titles which were quite expensive. The 2LP sets were $50 each (Holsten Team, Osaka) and $100 for the 4LP sets (Do You Love Me, Wembley, etc). Happy New Year and The Night They Drove old 80 Down were $125. Very expensive because I think ...
2017/04/04 01:48
I can't say for sure, but the behind stage portion of the picture doesn't look like the Spectrum. The Spectrum had a full section behind the stage with an overhang balcony. I'd need to see a larger image. I believe the bootleggers simply used Mark Persic's tape for This Gun, so the pics could be from anywhere.
2017/04/04 01:33
I suspect the order of release is: 1. The Jersey Devil 2. Live at the Bottom Line 8/15/75 3. Ain't Nobody Here from Billboard 4. Live Coral 5. Hot Coals Hot Coals has tracks from the Tower Dec 30-31, 1975 shows, so I think it would date later than Feb 76.
2017/04/04 01:06
Hello again, It has been a while! I lost my link to your blog, so I have a lot of posts to read since our last discussion on Piece de Resistance! So I think the brown discoloration is a gassing issue caused by the PVC sleeves. Could be many factors that contribute to some discoloring and others being fine. A copy of the flag picture disc I pu ...
2017/04/04 01:00
Hello again! I lost my link to your blog, so I have a lot of catching up to do. I think the reason for the discoloration is reaction to the PVC sleeve similar to the gassing problem with some vinyl. My All Those Years pic disc/red vinyl in PVC has gassing issues with all of the red vinyl sides. Also, one orange disc in my Honeymoon box has gass ...
2017/04/03 09:36
Thank you so much for your post and information. I think your thought is very probably true because I bought a batch of promo 12” discs including this one back in 1999, through eBay from the seller whose address was in Phoenix, Arizona (check the last paragraph of the blog article on August 15th, 2016; https://manattop.blogspot.jp/2016/08/classic-v ...
2017/04/03 01:25
Hello. One thought, ZIA may be the Phoenix and Tucson AZ based used record store chain. They often reseal vinyl for sale. The 195 may actually be a $1.95 resale price.
2017/02/28 11:44
Hello Eastling, Many thanks for your message, which surely cheers me up to continue blogging! Wait for the next up although currently I'm quite busy for working as the fiscal year ends March in this country. Best,
2017/02/28 01:40
I found your blog linked from Springsteenlyrics.com and reading it has been fascinating! I grew up in New Jersey in the US and have long been a casual Springsteen fan, but after moving away to the other side of the country I've grown more and more enamored of his music. I'm very envious of your collection (this latest acquisition has such ...
2016/12/24 23:14
Thank you Alfons for the information that also supports that the inverse triangle on record labels refers to Side A of 12" and vinyl discs. This, however, still seems to be an unsolved question among collectors. For example, the same triangle is also found on some CD titles released on the Columbia labels. Obviously, the same idea cannot be ap ...
2016/12/24 03:12
Hi Manattop. The inverse triangle also appears on the first american issue of Darkness, only on side 1. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/AlCata/Bruce/IMG_20161224_034900_zpsre497k2m.jpg Best Regards Alfons
2016/12/18 08:41
Check out a new post regarding this unusual red Columbia label at: https://manattop.blogspot.jp/2016/12/supplementary-to-born-to-run-us.html
2016/12/16 13:51
> No particular reason other than it seemed natural for a 5 disc set seemed to come in a box set. I think the package is still something special because almost all of the Bruceleg boxes, released by the end of 1984, came in a plain black or white box with one or two inserts only. An example from the BORN IN THE USA Tour is BRON IN THE CINCINNATI ...
2016/12/15 23:36
~Then, I wonder if there is any particular reason for the deluxe package of the This Guns set? No particular reason other than it seemed natural for a a 5 disc set seemed to come ina box set. As far as it being considered a 'superb package' I'm not sure I would classify it as that but certainly an EXC package but I think the other reco ...
2016/12/13 04:40
Then, I wonder if there is any particular reason for the deluxe package of the This Guns set? In light of your information, the list price obviously increased double or triple after the import. I cannot help reminiscing about how much we were ripped off here even though back then I knew that vinyl bootleg industry was almost exclusively seller’ ...
2016/12/12 22:15
No not all the other 9 titles would be considered superb all around production. Interesting because the 1st one the guy did and the last one both had insert covers.. the only ones that had insert covers. Only one was a full color cover. 2 of them had 1,000 or less copies pressed. 3 of the 10 or so years later came out officially. The reason the Th ...
2016/12/12 00:07
So probably the other 9 titles are also equally superb all-around production although I have never bought or obtained any bootleg other than Bruceleg. As I quoted from an article featured on the Backstreets magazine (#16 issued in 1986), this title was reportedly sold at a relatively low price compared to Europe-pressed bootleg releases. Do you r ...
2016/12/11 08:59
The labels were changed and matrix altered for paranoia reasons so instead of the actual song titles they consisted of a line/lyric from the song. The person who made the set only made about 10 different records and yes This Gun's For Hire is the only Springsteen one. All copies of each of the sets included the over-sized clear plastic bag so ...
2016/12/11 01:27
Wow, thanks once again for top-notch information! Now I convincingly understood why the various aspects on this release, such as the labels, packaging and matrix numbers, are differentiated between the first and second pressings. It also becomes clear why that hand-etched, short note was made on the dead wax of Side 10. Supposedly, this title is th ...
2016/12/10 17:48
~May I ask you why you are so sure about the person who made the box set did not ever put any colour photos in any of them ? Because I asked the person who made it. I hesitate to mention this but the person who put it out was not a Springsteen fan (hence the comment written in the run out grooves 'Dylan's better') as opposed to the ...
2016/12/08 13:39
Thank you for your reply, I caught your point. Then I am tempted to ask a question. May I ask you why you are so sure about the person who made the box set did not ever put any colour photos in any of them ?
2016/12/07 23:30
~No you didn't misunderstand what I meant. Reminds me of someone posting that some copies of Blondie - Little Doll came with a printed inner sleeve when in fact none of them did. So if you got color pictures in the original box that you posted above then someone put them in there but the person who made the original and repress did not put any ...
2016/12/07 16:12
Frankly, I'm confused by one particular point of your comments. In the first post, you said that neither original nor repress had any colour photos. Then in response to my question as to what the "GENUINE" original looks like, you said that a picture of the "GENUINE" original copy is already up on this blog. However, the pic ...
2016/12/06 15:28
~Thank you for the great info You're welcome ~Any more substantial info available such as photo or scanned images of the GENUINE original pressing? You already posted a photo or scan of the GENUINE original pressing the one on top where the title is farther away from the spine than the 2nd improved box and the back has all gold lettering. ...
2016/12/06 11:25
Thank you for the great info that cannot be known unless the AUTHORITY discloses it. Any more substantial info available such as photo or scanned images of the GENUINE original pressing?
2016/12/06 02:16
~Last Ride In A Pink Cadillac booklet is the line "first pressing came with two colour photos," which seems to be NOT necessarily true for all copies of the first pressing, but applied to a very limited fraction of such copies. The booklet must be referring to the first pressing of the Italian counterfeit not of the original with the HGW ...
2016/03/29 00:55
Hi!! I don't know any issue with this label, but this page is very interesting http://www.lostintheflood.priv.at/ and http://www.montibeton.com/lostintheflood/vinyl.htm and more links to Discogs https://www.discogs.com/es/artist/219986-Bruce-Springsteen https://www.discogs.com/es/artist/760706-Bruce-Springsteen-The-E-Street-Band Best Regard ...
2016/03/29 00:08
Hi Alfons, thanks for the post and the Discogs page information. Do you know if any other Springsteen LP issues exist with this particular red labels?
2016/03/28 21:08
Hi. I have an issue like this with unusual red label of Columbia. For your interest, I bought in the mid to late 90s in Barcelone (Spain) You can see pictures of my album here https://www.discogs.com/es/Bruce-Springsteen-Born-To-Run/release/8307571 Best regards and thanks for your great contributions. Alfons
2015/04/16 21:47
I accidentally deleted the above comment by myself, and so here re-posted: Thank you for your comment. Your blog is overwhelming and certainly one of those that inspired me to launch this blog.
2015/02/18 12:34
2015/02/09 14:10
I really enjoy the depths of research used on this blog.
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